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Link preset to midi from Kemper
  • harry
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    Link preset to midi from Kemper

    by harry » Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:17 pm

    The Kemper has the possibilities to send PC midi messages.

    Is there a way to link presets to an incoming PC-message?

    I want to do something like this:

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    LINK StartPlayback TO INCOMING_PC_1
  • TinyBoxAdmin
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    Re: Link preset to midi from Kemper

    by TinyBoxAdmin » Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:04 pm

    Actually the TinyBox is intended to replace and largely extend the MIDI possibilities of the Profiler.
    The Profiler allows you to send a few PC messages for each rig. The TinyBox allows you to send any combination of MIDI messages for each rig. So instead of programming the PC message in the Profiler, you add this PC message to a Tinybox preset, along with all other required MIDI messages, and the selected rig in the Profiler will trigger that preset.
  • harry
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    Re: Link preset to midi from Kemper

    by harry » Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:15 pm

    Actually the TinyBox is intended to replace and largely extend the MIDI possibilities of the Profiler.
    The Profiler allows you to send a few PC messages for each rig. The TinyBox allows you to send any combination of MIDI messages for each rig. So instead of programming the PC message in the Profiler, you add this PC message to a Tinybox preset, along with all other required MIDI messages, and the selected rig in the Profiler will trigger that preset.
    The problem with linking midi commands to a performance is that it will be "hard" linked. If you move a performance on the Kemper, like rearrange a sett list. You have to go thru your code and fix the mapping again. If it is possible to link to the PC that is generated by the Kemper, you can move performances whiteout recoding the TinyBox. In some cases this will be a lot more convenient.
  • TinyBoxAdmin
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    Re: Link preset to midi from Kemper

    by TinyBoxAdmin » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:48 pm

    The problem with linking midi commands to a performance is that it will be "hard" linked. If you move a performance on the Kemper, like rearrange a sett list. You have to go thru your code and fix the mapping again. If it is possible to link to the PC that is generated by the Kemper, you can move performances whiteout recoding the TinyBox. In some cases this will be a lot more convenient.
    I see, this is an inconvenience indeed. The problem here is that the Profiler actually already uses PC messages in its 2-way communication protocol to indicate which slot of which performance is currently selected. The TinyBox listens to this PC message to update the screen status and trigger the linked preset. If you program an extra PC message in the Profiler slots things get messed up: on each rig change the Profiler now sends 2 PC messages, and when you move slots these PC messages start conflicting (the one you program moves along with the rig, the one the Profiler sends still indicates the actual slot number). So in short the Profiler 2-way-communication cannot be combined with manually programming extra PC messages on the same MIDI OUT port.

    After experimenting with moving slots around my impression is that recoding the TinyBox accordingly is really a very small effort, compared to the things you need to do on the Profiler to have the slots reprogrammed. Just keep the TinyBox setup open in your browser, adapt the slot number in the code line "LINK MyRig TO PERFORMANCE 2 SLOT 3" and click "Send to Tinybox". Although I agree it would have been cleaner if that wouldn't be necessary. Could be solved by using 1 unprogrammed TinyBox4Kemper to do 2-way communication and show Profiler status, and another TinyBox connected to MIDI THRU which triggers extra MIDI based on the incoming PC message programmed into each rig. But let's call that overkill...
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